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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.breadtopia.com/2008/01/24/nates-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-28049</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I have been trying to get one of my guys to clean up my rusty dutch oven for a long time and finaly forced hubby to let me buy a la cloche, since he also never got around to making me the homemade one! I even tried sprinkling the bran on the bottom of the cloche, that burned! I used a oven thermometer, and the oven was around 500! should have waited longer to put it in after turning it down a bit. Is an older stove, they say was a even heater, boy they were&#039;nt kidding!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I have been trying to get one of my guys to clean up my rusty dutch oven for a long time and finaly forced hubby to let me buy a la cloche, since he also never got around to making me the homemade one! I even tried sprinkling the bran on the bottom of the cloche, that burned! I used a oven thermometer, and the oven was around 500! should have waited longer to put it in after turning it down a bit. Is an older stove, they say was a even heater, boy they were&#8217;nt kidding!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Packer</title>
		<link>http://www.breadtopia.com/2008/01/24/nates-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-27888</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Packer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: burned bottom crust.
I use an inverted baking sheet under my cast iron dutch oven for exactly that reason.  Seems to cut down on the burning considerably.
Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: burned bottom crust.<br />
I use an inverted baking sheet under my cast iron dutch oven for exactly that reason.  Seems to cut down on the burning considerably.<br />
Bob</p>
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		<title>By: breadtopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>breadtopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I REALLY hope to start shooting more videos this coming week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I REALLY hope to start shooting more videos this coming week.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori O</title>
		<link>http://www.breadtopia.com/2008/01/24/nates-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-27271</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. No, I appreciate the input!! I had most of those items on my list already!! Are more videos coming soon? Thanks for all you do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks. No, I appreciate the input!! I had most of those items on my list already!! Are more videos coming soon? Thanks for all you do!</p>
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		<title>By: breadtopia</title>
		<link>http://www.breadtopia.com/2008/01/24/nates-bake/comment-page-1/#comment-27093</link>
		<dc:creator>breadtopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 02:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s like asking me which child I like best ;). Actually, I lean a bit towards the oblong because I&#039;m a crust lover and an  oblong loaf has a better crust to crumb ratio.

Other essentials are the Dr. Oetker dough scraper, a bench knife, instant read thermometer, kitchen scale (with tare feature) that measures in grams and ounces, Danish dough whisk, and you might as well get a package of SAF instant yeast while you&#039;re at it.

You asked!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s like asking me which child I like best <img src='http://www.breadtopia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Actually, I lean a bit towards the oblong because I&#8217;m a crust lover and an  oblong loaf has a better crust to crumb ratio.</p>
<p>Other essentials are the Dr. Oetker dough scraper, a bench knife, instant read thermometer, kitchen scale (with tare feature) that measures in grams and ounces, Danish dough whisk, and you might as well get a package of SAF instant yeast while you&#8217;re at it.</p>
<p>You asked!</p>
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		<title>By: Lori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again! Which La Cloche do you like the best? The round or loaf design. Also, what are the baking &quot;essentials&quot; you&#039;d recommend that everyone should have. (I am creating my birthday wish list :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again! Which La Cloche do you like the best? The round or loaf design. Also, what are the baking &#8220;essentials&#8221; you&#8217;d recommend that everyone should have. (I am creating my birthday wish list <img src='http://www.breadtopia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanx again Eric and Nate!

Oh Nate, just to clarify, the whole wheat bread I was speaking about at the end of my email was an entirely different topic. It was not made from the no-knead recipe. It was just some whole wheat bread recipe I found on the internet. I was going to try to make the &quot;Holy Grail of 100% Whole Wheat Breads&quot; recipe found here on Breadtopia...but Eric has told me to hold off....so I will.

As for your helpful hints for the no-knead, I do cool on a wire rack. Also, I found that on my second attempt, the crust was much lighter and softer than on my first attempt. I am wondering if it was due to the reduction of 50 degrees in temperature or the fact that I only baked with the lid off for 15 minutes instead of for 20 minutes (I was afraid of burning the bottom again). I think I am learning from your comments....keep trying! Perhaps when I order my La Cloche I will have better luck. My Le Creuset pot seems ok for now, but I really don&#039;t want to ruin it! My oven only heats from the bottom too (I think...don&#039;t most gas ovens heat from the bottom??...gotta check the manual I guess). As you originally suggested, next time I try the no-knead recipe, I will invert upside down for the last 20 minutes, once the lid is removed. 

From what I can read in your second email, you use starter instead of instant yeast in your no-knead rustic style baguette recipe, correct? I looked for starter in a few of our major grocery chains here in Toronto but couldn&#039;t find some! I am wondering if I should hit the health food stores next? After reading the info on Eric&#039;s site and watching the video I am a bit more informed on starter, but I still have a lot to understand. I was just going to order a batch of Eric&#039;s starter...just not sure which one to order yet as I do not know the difference between dry and live.

I am really knew to bread baking and some of the terms used are really foreign to me. I will try again this Saturday.

until then...happy baking!
marilyn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanx again Eric and Nate!</p>
<p>Oh Nate, just to clarify, the whole wheat bread I was speaking about at the end of my email was an entirely different topic. It was not made from the no-knead recipe. It was just some whole wheat bread recipe I found on the internet. I was going to try to make the &#8220;Holy Grail of 100% Whole Wheat Breads&#8221; recipe found here on Breadtopia&#8230;but Eric has told me to hold off&#8230;.so I will.</p>
<p>As for your helpful hints for the no-knead, I do cool on a wire rack. Also, I found that on my second attempt, the crust was much lighter and softer than on my first attempt. I am wondering if it was due to the reduction of 50 degrees in temperature or the fact that I only baked with the lid off for 15 minutes instead of for 20 minutes (I was afraid of burning the bottom again). I think I am learning from your comments&#8230;.keep trying! Perhaps when I order my La Cloche I will have better luck. My Le Creuset pot seems ok for now, but I really don&#8217;t want to ruin it! My oven only heats from the bottom too (I think&#8230;don&#8217;t most gas ovens heat from the bottom??&#8230;gotta check the manual I guess). As you originally suggested, next time I try the no-knead recipe, I will invert upside down for the last 20 minutes, once the lid is removed. </p>
<p>From what I can read in your second email, you use starter instead of instant yeast in your no-knead rustic style baguette recipe, correct? I looked for starter in a few of our major grocery chains here in Toronto but couldn&#8217;t find some! I am wondering if I should hit the health food stores next? After reading the info on Eric&#8217;s site and watching the video I am a bit more informed on starter, but I still have a lot to understand. I was just going to order a batch of Eric&#8217;s starter&#8230;just not sure which one to order yet as I do not know the difference between dry and live.</p>
<p>I am really knew to bread baking and some of the terms used are really foreign to me. I will try again this Saturday.</p>
<p>until then&#8230;happy baking!<br />
marilyn</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah!  Forgot this. IMHO, whole wheat really does not go with a rustic style baguette or &quot;French&quot; bread. White flour, salt, water, starter.  I usually put in one half a cup of KA white whole wheat. If I put in a whole cup, can really taste it, and it does get dense. For me, not for this type of bread (no knead, sourdough...)

Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah!  Forgot this. IMHO, whole wheat really does not go with a rustic style baguette or &#8220;French&#8221; bread. White flour, salt, water, starter.  I usually put in one half a cup of KA white whole wheat. If I put in a whole cup, can really taste it, and it does get dense. For me, not for this type of bread (no knead, sourdough&#8230;)</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marilyn

I just turn the loaf upside down on the oven rack to finish the bake. I do this because my oven only has heat from the bottom, and I am trying to avoid burning the bottom. I def recomend a wire rack to cool the loaves on. I do this with both my round and oblong loaves. 

The crusts are crispy and thick. 

My experience in baking is def a learning one. I think I learn something new every time. Times given are a range. Sometimes longer, sometime shorter. And dare I say, same with ingredients.   But what do I know?

Good luck

Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marilyn</p>
<p>I just turn the loaf upside down on the oven rack to finish the bake. I do this because my oven only has heat from the bottom, and I am trying to avoid burning the bottom. I def recomend a wire rack to cool the loaves on. I do this with both my round and oblong loaves. </p>
<p>The crusts are crispy and thick. </p>
<p>My experience in baking is def a learning one. I think I learn something new every time. Times given are a range. Sometimes longer, sometime shorter. And dare I say, same with ingredients.   But what do I know?</p>
<p>Good luck</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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		<title>By: breadtopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>breadtopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea, I guess I would try keeping the lid off a little longer for a thicker crust. Between the round and oblong cloche, I&#039;d recommend the oblong for crust lovers. You just get more of it  for the same amount of dough.

By &quot;lower hydration&quot; I just mean his dough isn&#039;t as wet as many make their no knead dough, so it has less of a tendency to flatten out under its own weight.

The &quot;Holy Grail&quot; sandwich loaf bread is meant to be baked in a baking pan vs a cloche, so you&#039;re ok there. However, I&#039;d hold off of that recipe. It&#039;s really not all that great in my opinion. I&#039;ve got a couple more sandwich loaf type recipes coming eventually that are way better. And one of them is actually pretty easy with far fewer ingredients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea, I guess I would try keeping the lid off a little longer for a thicker crust. Between the round and oblong cloche, I&#8217;d recommend the oblong for crust lovers. You just get more of it  for the same amount of dough.</p>
<p>By &#8220;lower hydration&#8221; I just mean his dough isn&#8217;t as wet as many make their no knead dough, so it has less of a tendency to flatten out under its own weight.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Holy Grail&#8221; sandwich loaf bread is meant to be baked in a baking pan vs a cloche, so you&#8217;re ok there. However, I&#8217;d hold off of that recipe. It&#8217;s really not all that great in my opinion. I&#8217;ve got a couple more sandwich loaf type recipes coming eventually that are way better. And one of them is actually pretty easy with far fewer ingredients.</p>
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