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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, will cut back on the proofing time, but it does say on day 3  of the instructions to let it sit on the counter for 5 hrs... Which is what I have been doing. Will cut back on this. I am in Australia in Queensland and this time of the year it is Hot and humid.

Will cut back on the proofing on day 3 and see what I get.

Thanks again for a great site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, will cut back on the proofing time, but it does say on day 3  of the instructions to let it sit on the counter for 5 hrs&#8230; Which is what I have been doing. Will cut back on this. I am in Australia in Queensland and this time of the year it is Hot and humid.</p>
<p>Will cut back on the proofing on day 3 and see what I get.</p>
<p>Thanks again for a great site.</p>
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		<title>By: Breadtopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breadtopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Simon,

If I&#039;m reading this right, you&#039;re letting your dough proof for 5 hours on the second rise? That&#039;s about 3 1/2 hours too long. It&#039;s way over proofing and will definitely do what you&#039;re experiencing. Almost all the yeast is depleted by the time your dough is going in the oven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Simon,</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m reading this right, you&#8217;re letting your dough proof for 5 hours on the second rise? That&#8217;s about 3 1/2 hours too long. It&#8217;s way over proofing and will definitely do what you&#8217;re experiencing. Almost all the yeast is depleted by the time your dough is going in the oven.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Everything has been fine except for the final stage before baking.. I wait the approx 5 hours, the bread has risen, but it seem to lose all it air when I move it to the oven. I try and &#039;flip&#039; it from the proving basin (I don&#039;t have a basket as recommended) as gentle as I can, yet each time it sinks, and is a very low loaf. Any advice on what to do here? The flavour is great, don&#039;t get me wrong, just want it to have a bit of height.

thanks

Simon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Everything has been fine except for the final stage before baking.. I wait the approx 5 hours, the bread has risen, but it seem to lose all it air when I move it to the oven. I try and &#8216;flip&#8217; it from the proving basin (I don&#8217;t have a basket as recommended) as gentle as I can, yet each time it sinks, and is a very low loaf. Any advice on what to do here? The flavour is great, don&#8217;t get me wrong, just want it to have a bit of height.</p>
<p>thanks</p>
<p>Simon.</p>
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		<title>By: Yelken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yelken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Alice. Zeker. Die zet je dan ook in een koude oven. Want daar is die 1 1/4 uur op gesabeerd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Alice. Zeker. Die zet je dan ook in een koude oven. Want daar is die 1 1/4 uur op gesabeerd.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 19:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Thanks for all the great info.  I have a starter that is a week old.  I have made 3 loaves now and they are all very sour tasting.  My culture is made from whole kernel hard wheat that I have personally milled and water.  It&#039;s very active, bubbly and doubling.  I have not refrigerated it as of yet.  It&#039;s also very dense, which I suspect if from the whole wheat.  But, what about the strong sour taste?  Is there a way to cut this down?  My bread recipes have only stater, water, flour and salt.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Thanks for all the great info.  I have a starter that is a week old.  I have made 3 loaves now and they are all very sour tasting.  My culture is made from whole kernel hard wheat that I have personally milled and water.  It&#8217;s very active, bubbly and doubling.  I have not refrigerated it as of yet.  It&#8217;s also very dense, which I suspect if from the whole wheat.  But, what about the strong sour taste?  Is there a way to cut this down?  My bread recipes have only stater, water, flour and salt.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: william</title>
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		<dc:creator>william</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 02:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can this recipe be adopted for a 2 lb bread machine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can this recipe be adopted for a 2 lb bread machine?</p>
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		<title>By: Breadtopia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Breadtopia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 12:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful bread. Nice going!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful bread. Nice going!</p>
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		<title>By: Corinna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 22:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have missed German bread for the last 30 + years since I emigrated from there. Now I found this site and am in 7th heaven! First try at the sourdough starter and also the Whole Grain Sourdough leave me hopeful I will only get better! Thank you Eric for all the information on your site and the wonderful videos. I am far less intimidated by bread baking now. Here is a picture of my &quot;first&quot;. This was actually baked uncovered on a pizza stone @ 450F for  45 minutes.
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have missed German bread for the last 30 + years since I emigrated from there. Now I found this site and am in 7th heaven! First try at the sourdough starter and also the Whole Grain Sourdough leave me hopeful I will only get better! Thank you Eric for all the information on your site and the wonderful videos. I am far less intimidated by bread baking now. Here is a picture of my &#8220;first&#8221;. This was actually baked uncovered on a pizza stone @ 450F for  45 minutes.<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Eliasbeth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eliasbeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 13:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The starter for this took 5 days and then took off in a big way.  The bread  tastes divine - very complex flavour - and is really digestible.  I use local, organic, flours from the nearby mill and will definitely incude this bread in my repertoire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The starter for this took 5 days and then took off in a big way.  The bread  tastes divine &#8211; very complex flavour &#8211; and is really digestible.  I use local, organic, flours from the nearby mill and will definitely incude this bread in my repertoire.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2011 16:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I exclusively  use fresh milled flour for all my recipes including this one and my bread comes out a little denser it still very good.  I make sure to use about 2 Tbs of gluten and 2 Tbs dough enhancer  just I for good measure.  Since I prefer a more sour loaf, I also let the dough sit longer in the fridge (as much as 24 hrs longer).  To compensate for the 100% fresh ground whole grain I usually let it rise longer and in a bit warmer spot than on the counter (oven w/ the light on).

I have also experimented turning this bread into a rye bread by substituting the spelt and 1/2 the wheat flour with rye.  You can use less rye if you like a lighter bread.  I also add about 3 Tbs caraway seed.  It&#039;s a very forgiving base recipe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I exclusively  use fresh milled flour for all my recipes including this one and my bread comes out a little denser it still very good.  I make sure to use about 2 Tbs of gluten and 2 Tbs dough enhancer  just I for good measure.  Since I prefer a more sour loaf, I also let the dough sit longer in the fridge (as much as 24 hrs longer).  To compensate for the 100% fresh ground whole grain I usually let it rise longer and in a bit warmer spot than on the counter (oven w/ the light on).</p>
<p>I have also experimented turning this bread into a rye bread by substituting the spelt and 1/2 the wheat flour with rye.  You can use less rye if you like a lighter bread.  I also add about 3 Tbs caraway seed.  It&#8217;s a very forgiving base recipe!</p>
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